Master Gardeners support keeping Brown Co. Extension Educator
To the editor:
The purpose of this letter is to communicate to you about the excellence and value of our Brown County Master Gardener's Program and the connection we have with our County Extension Agent.
The Master Gardener's program in Brown County is alive and thriving. All 34 of us have had 48 hours of University of Minnesota training on botany, entomology, plant pathology, soils, herbaceous plants, vegetables, fruits, trees, lawns, etc. The training was formulated and organized by the University of Minnesota Extension. Graduates of the program are expected to be fingers of this service, and they are expected to volunteer hours of advanced study and hours of community service each year. These hours are reported to the state office and approved. Most Master Gardeners have more hours than required. Several of our members have each donated well over 1000 hours to our county.
Our Brown County Master Gardeners organized in 1996 with 11 members. Since then we have grown to 34 very active members. Our outreach to the community has been remarkable. In our history we have served through education through personal contact with citizens, but also through the Brown County Fair, FarmFest, Lamberton Field Day, Farm City Days, and our locally written Weeder's Digest publications since 1996. We have initiated or joined presentations in 4-H, Girl Scouts, Kinderfest, ProKids workshops, Walmart planting advice, Butterfly presentations, Herberger's Kids Day, plus writing newspaper articles for all county newspapers, including the Sleepy Eye Herald, The Journal of New Ulm, the New Ulm Shopper, Springfield Advance Press, Morgan Messenger, Hanska Herald and Comfrey Times. We also make seasonal presentations at county grade schools on pumpkins and apples, accompanied by a coloring booklet we furnish.
Being avid gardeners, we have assisted in some gardening at German Park, the Lind House, Gilfillan Estates, Randall's Boulevard, the New Ulm Group Home, Putting Green, and the Riverhaven Secure Unit at St. John Lutheran Home of Springfield, for which our group received the state Search for Excellence Award and the Tri-State Project of Merit Award. Our main vision of the program, however, is education.
We have made donations, sponsored by donations we have received and by a plant sale. We donate the coloring books to the grade schools throughout the county, plus on Arbor Day we plant a tree somewhere in the county public grounds: Brown County Fair Grounds, Wellman-Hageman County Park, and Brown Park in Springfield.
This is a bird's eye view of our activities. Our big yearly fete is the horticulture exhibits at the Brown County Fair, where we organize the exhibit list and rules in the fair booklet, make presentations on how to exhibit at the fair, set up the exhibit space, assist as the exhibits come, and assist the judges we pick and review our expectations with as they work their way through the extensive displays. We have people who watch the exhibits as the fair progresses and answer questions as onlookers proceed through the exhibits, and then we supervise and remove all horticulture exhibit materials at the end.
All 34 of us Master Gardeners are very excited to have this opportunity to learn more and help with community education. We are grateful to the Extension for their enthusiastic assistance and yes-attitude in our ventures. We are amazed at the knowledge of our local extension agent, Wayne Schoper. He seems to know about every venue we pursue and is full of ideas to give us options to accomplish what we decide. We all treasure his "can-do" attitude. He can see beyond where we are and suggest the Extension could provide this or locate that or make that connection for us, which has been a huge help throughout the years. He can help us see how we can make projects touch more citizens than we thought would be our goal. We find his extensive plus international background to be very valuable to our program, and, in fact, to our county.
The thoughts and opinions of our group come from throughout the county, from Comfrey, Springfield, Sleepy Eye, Morgan, and from the New Ulm area. Although our backgrounds differ from rural to city, from smaller town to New Ulm, we share our commitment to education and our sincere need to keep Wayne Schoper as County Extension Agent attached to our program. We Master Gardeners need to have a resource person like Mr. Schoper in our area for us to continue our mission statement to further horticultural education in Brown County.
Marianne Schotzko
Founding Member
Ingrid Liedman
Secretary
Brown County
Master Gardeners
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middleclassworker
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11-12-09 10:20 PM
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Glad you see my point now :)
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middleclassworker
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11-08-09 8:23 PM
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Funny...in face-to-face relationships, I can't think of anyone who I don't get along with. Maybe you misread me. Maybe some of my comments were more out of frustration than anything. Either way, who cares. The whole point that I was trying to make all along is that the farming industry gets more assistance than most other small businesses, and keeping Mr. Schoper's position probably isn't fair to the other small businesses who do not get free consultants. That's the long and short of it. Have a nice day!
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FmlyFrm
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11-08-09 8:00 AM
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man, you really like that soap box! it's not saying your opinion thats the problem, its your dispresectful comments about farmers. you asked how you bashed farmers and i answered .. there are alot of things youve said in the wind lettesr ive followed and i finally got fed up with it too! i think standupandCLAP is right .. im not wasting my time with your ignorance anymore. you are unreal!!
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middleclassworker
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11-08-09 12:16 AM
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So I'm not allowed to have an opinion here simply because I disagree with you? Sorry, your highness! Sorry that I feel that wind power would benefit WAY more people than it would inconvenience. Sorry that we cannot just erect them along Broadway. Sorry that we can't put them up 100 miles from here and lease the MW on the powerlines to get the power here all while keeping the project viable. A LOT of time and money has went into engineering this project. I sure as he*l hope that a few landowners, farmers or not, don't go and mess it all up. It's for the greater good. WOW! I'm sure glad you resurrected THAT topic. Why don't we just agree to disagree? It's interesting how you people come out of the woodwork. I've never seen either one of you here before...or are you someone who has been permanently banned who came back under a different address?
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middleclassworker
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11-08-09 12:00 AM
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Whatever...poor you.
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FmlyFrm
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11-07-09 5:34 PM
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i guess youve forgotten about all your posts on the wind farm letters to the editor. i was fed up wiht your comments too. standup isnt the first one to tell you to stop bashing farmers and educate yourself more .. voiceofreason told you the same thing in other posts. i dont think standup is off their rocker at all. i think theyre pretty on point!
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middleclassworker
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11-07-09 3:18 PM
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So, tell me how that is bashing farmers. It is standupandcrap that is off her rocker here.
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middleclassworker
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11-07-09 3:18 PM
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FamilyFarm, if you look at my first post, I simply stated my feelings on Brown County paying for Mr. Schoper's salary. Yes, I made the leap that if a farmer can afford a brand new pickup every few years, then he can pay Mr. Schoper for his knowledge. It is Standupandcrap that jumped all over me for that and told me how much I should appreciate farmers. I never said that I didn't. I just simply stated that a private business such as farming should pay their own way for advise.
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FmlyFrm
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11-07-09 12:54 PM
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nobodys arguing with you about the bro co ext position, middleclass. what standup was trying to tell you was stop talking bad about farmers. you make it sound like farmers just keep getting richer with all their "breaks" and "handouts" while the rest of society gets poorer because NO OTHER business around gets breaks like farmers. get real bud! i know of several business owners (& 1 happens to be in cosntruction) that get plenty of breaks too!! you need to read up on your facts there!
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middleclassworker
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11-07-09 9:26 AM
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Actually, as for the issues that I speak about, it is in reference to some earlier comments and letters related to farming. It all ties into the same subject...the fact that Brown County is no longer paying for Mr. Schoper's salary. My whole point is that if people want to benefit from his services, let THEM pay for it, whether they are a gardener or a farmer.
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middleclassworker
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11-07-09 9:24 AM
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No, you are both missing the point. My original point is that Brown County should not and is not responsible to pay Mr. Schoper's salary. While he provides a benefit to an industry, it is unfair to every other industry that does not get free advise paid for by the county. I applaud our farmers...they are some of the hardest-working people in our community. However, business is business and it is unfair to subsidize their industry. Food is the most valuable item our country produces...we will always need farmers. As long as they have a product that people want, they will do fine.
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FmlyFrm
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11-07-09 6:06 AM
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i'm with standupandclap ... middleclassworker. you are not understanding their point - i don't see anywhere they addressed any of the issues you seem to continue to bring up. get off your soap box. standupandclap, i got your message loud and clear!! i say, WELL SAID TO YOU! and i dont think you need anger manangement! :)
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 11:51 PM
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My employer spends over $1,000 a month on fuel for it's work vans. We have somewhere near $100,000 worth of shop tools...most of them well used...just to do our jobs. Do you know how much liability a contractor takes in bidding a $1,000,000 job? What if mother nature doesn't cooperate and you have to pay overtime to avoid paying fines for not having the project complete on time? One project I managed saw copper rise by $30,000 on the job...my employer ATE IT! There is not any sort of insurance for things such as that. Many construction contracts are now written so that any unforeseen conditions are the responsibility of the bidding contractor. Maybe it is YOU who doesn't understand how much other industries fight to keep their heads above water. I might suggest anger management, by the way.
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 11:44 PM
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Also, my friends who farm are also not the type driving new trucks around while complaining that the state won't pay for Mr. Schoper's services. They are successful farmers because of their hard work and good business practices. They save up for years when times aren't so good. I don't have a problem with all farmers...they are some of the hardest working people in our society...I just don't think that that INDUSTRY is any more deserving of free advise than any other industry, that's all. Hopefully that clears things up for you.
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 11:28 PM
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And you don't think we are overproducing? Why is there such a push for ethanol? It has been proven that it takes more resources to make it than it saves. It's all politics! How about all the nitrogen in the Gulf of Mexico...the huge and growing dead spot where nothing grows because of all the nitrogen? They keep fertilizing and fertilizing, tiling and tiling. When we get a drop of rain, it floods and everything goes down the river. BUT....we are getting way off topic here. My original point was: Why should Mr. Schoper get paid with tax dollars? If farmers want to use his vast wealth of knowledge, (and I DO believe that to be true) then THEY can pay him for his services. They could probably even get a tax write off for it!!
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standupandclap
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11-06-09 11:23 PM
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I have said it several times now, YOU.DO.NOT.GET.IT. My statement means, point blank, you flap your gums quit freely, and very rudely I may add, about farmers/farms when I highly doubt you have any clue whatever-so-ever about the industry. You OBVIOUSLY have no idea how much seed costs for farmers for ONE SEASON-you have no idea how much fuel it takes to run the machinary-propane or fuel it takes to run the bins they use for their product-the losses they incure from mother nature-how much their land rent is, if they rent land-how much their machinery costs-how about how much money it takes to CONSTRUCT THE SHEDS for said machinary-how about the money spend on pesticides and weed killer for more productive crops. I can go on, but my point which you've missed in EVERY comment I've made, STOP BASHING FARMERS WHEN OBVIOUSLY IT IS A TOPIC YOU ARE NOT COMPLETELY INFORMED ON!!!!!!!! I'm done wasting my breath with you!! You obviously are NOT understanding a simple point that's been made!!!!!
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 10:02 PM
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Okay, simple question. Why should a farmer get a subsidy and not another business owner? What makes his/her business any more qualified?
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standupandclap
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11-06-09 9:14 PM
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armers. And as for the lecture, I do not believe venting my frustrations on how rude and disrespectful yours comments are about farming/farmers and trying to clarify for you the content of my message (even though I believe it was quite clear) is a lecture. Maybe you are the one who needs to get off said pedestal!
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standupandclap
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11-06-09 9:10 PM
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For someone who has "good friends" in the farming industry, you sure have no problems slamming down their way of life and business any chance you can get!! Right now EVERYONE is struggling in this country ...... E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E!!! From the construction worker, to the teachers, to the FARMERS .... EVERYONE. Again, you've missed the ENTIRE point of my comment ... YOU ARE SO QUICK TO BASH SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!!! Any letter someone writes in about a farm or farmer, you are right there talking smack about their way of life and operations. Instaed of actually commenting on the content of my statement, you have now gone on to talk about how we're overproducing (??) in this nation and the government is handing checks and cutting taxes to farmers even though they are "overproducing" this year?? Again, you obviously know NOTHING about farming ... what the farmers have been going through this year or years past, or what the government does and does not do for f
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standupandclap
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11-06-09 9:09 PM
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For someone who has "good friends" in the farming industry, you sure have no problems slamming down their way of life and business any chance you can get!! Right now EVERYONE is struggling in this country ...... E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E!!! From the construction worker, to the teachers, to the FARMERS .... EVERYONE. Again, you've missed the ENTIRE point of my comment ... YOU ARE SO QUICK TO BASH SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!!! Any letter someone writes in about a farm or farmer, you are right there talking smack about their way of life and operations. Instaed of actually commenting on the content of my statement, you have now gone on to talk about how we're overproducing (??) in this nation and the government is handing checks and cutting taxes to farmers even though they are "overproducing" this year?? Again, you obviously know NOTHING about farming ... what the farmers have been going through this year or years past, or what the government does and does not do for f
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 7:39 PM
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Maybe we over produce in this country, ever consider that? If I had a factory that produced widgets, and I pumped out way more than society needed, would the government buy my extra widgets? I know that construction contractors are really struggling right now...as are construction workers. We are looking at 50% unemployment in the construction industry by Christmas. Where's our check?? We don't get one. Yet, farmers are looking at 200 bushel corn this year and they need the government to continue to pay for them to have an expert to use for free? Also, YOU DON'T KNOW ME, so get off your pedestal and quit assuming that you can lecture me. I have many good friends that are farmers. It's a cut-throat industry, handing out checks and tax credits doesn't fix anything!
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standupandclap
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11-06-09 6:53 PM
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If you would have actually read my comment, I suggest you take a look back and re-read it. Nowhere in there did I EVER state that people would starve unless farmers get "bailouts". Do I know why laws were set a certain way? Do I know how tax brackets were set up? Do I know why programs were set up? No and I know for SURE you don't have a clue either. My simple statement was that you are so quick to bash the farmers when you know NOTHING about their industry or the MONEY is costs to do what they do!!!!! Try running a farm once and write the checks for a change??
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 4:58 PM
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And that brings me to another point...Taxes. Every other business person has to pay tax on every one of their vehicles and trailers. They must have the appropriate license to drive those vehicles. Why is it that I would need a special license to drive a tractor/trailer for a trucking company, but if I am hauling corn, then I don't need a license? Is that really safe?
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middleclassworker
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11-06-09 4:56 PM
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Yes, standupandclap, but it takes plumbers to make your water run and electricians to wire your farms and store owners to sell you your goods...yet NONE of these people get the handouts and free advise that you get. Yes, we all need food, but we need other things as well. To imply that we would all starve if farmers didn't get the bailouts that they do is an insult on their business and budgeting skills.
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standupandclap
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11-06-09 12:40 AM
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You know, I'm pretty sick to death of hearing people bash farmers. It's so easy to forget that if it wasn't for farmers, you wouldn't have meat on the grill, fruits & veggies in your fruit drawer, milk in your fridge, how about clothes on your back and shoes on your feet!! It takes farmers driving their "new equipment" & taking up your roadways to grow things, harvest things & and take them to market to MAKE THINGS. Pipe down already!!!
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