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Obama has gone beyond the norm

July 12, 2014

To the editor: In their letter of July 11, Dr....

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Reason2Puke

Jul-12-14 9:17 AM

Perfectly executed analysis of our current situation Michael.

Our system of government was specifically designed to keep a politician or a political party from advancing radical ideology. Barack Obama, the most radical president in our history, knows this all too well. He is a complete failure when it comes to working with ANYONE. I am sure that even he is surprised at what he has been allowed to get away with. The American people are not always clear about what they want, but they will make it abundantly clear in November that they don't want this.

Wait until school starts again and the party of the teachers has to answer why our schools are being swamped with kids who are illiterate in their own language, and don't speak ours.

Alinsky 101: Overwhelm the current system, crash it, and rebuild it the way you want it to be.

And I don't even watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh... Imagine that.

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Reason2Puke

Jul-12-14 9:19 AM

P.S. Hillary worshipped at the altar of Saul Alinsky as well.

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Auntydem

Jul-12-14 9:51 AM

P.S. FreedomWorks, which supports tea party groups,uses Alinsky’s books in training sessions. FOX favorite James O'Keefe found an "unlikely source of inspiration" in Alinsky.

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Auntydem

Jul-12-14 11:20 AM

Crash the system? As in drowning it in a bathtub? Obstruct everything? Shut it down?

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Reason2Puke

Jul-12-14 11:34 AM

No. Crash the system as in allowing tens of thousands of illegal entries into this country of kids who come from countries with extreme poverty, no childhood immunization and corrupt political systems. Even you aren't stupid enough to think that scenario ends well, Auntydem.

We were told by our "leaders" that immigration reform is about letting the hard working people, who are already here and paying taxes, stay and continue to enhance our tax base and our workforce. Instead, apparently it is all about flooding our social systems and sending the message that we are the home of the suckers and land of the free stuff.

Just as a side note, there are 50,000,000 displaced children and families worldwide. Do we let them all in?

Just as another side note, they are seeing teen males from Yemen and Pakistan intermingled with the crowd coming across our border from South America. Hmmm... I wonder what they are coming here for??

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Reason2Puke

Jul-12-14 11:43 AM

There is a direct correlation between increased illegal immigration and an increase in the black unemployment rate. I guess you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet, right Mr. President?

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MPagel

Jul-12-14 12:32 PM

Part 1:

Mr. Thom, you make the statement, “never, never in the history of the United States, has a president made a recess appointment when the Senate has declared itself to be in session.” But let’s take a closer look at this. Who was the President appointing and to what? He was appointing Richard Cordray to run the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Cordray was a well-liked Ohio Attorney General until he was toppled by the GOP midterm wave in 2010.

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MPagel

Jul-12-14 12:32 PM

Part 2:

And: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, created by the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, was designed as a Google-era regulator: a data-obsessed start-up, forever iterating, laser-focused on the safety of consumers rather than the soundness of banks. With a culture of creativity and corps of true believers, it would avoid the kind of coziness that had paralyzed its predecessors in the face of rampant wrongdoing. (Beutler, B. (n.d.). Why Obama's Defying The GOP And Appointing Top Consumer Watchdog. Talking Points Memo. Retrieved July 12, 2014, from *******talkingpointsmemo****/dc/why-obama-s-defying-the-gop-and-appointing-top-consumer-watchdog)

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MPagel

Jul-12-14 12:33 PM

Part 3:

What the republicans did - and this is a tactic both parties have used - to prevent Congress from being in recess was to use, brief "”pro-forma”" sessions (in which no actual business is conducted) while legislators were away. It's a procedural maneuver used by legislators to prevent recess appointments by making it so that Congress is technically not in recess. (Serwer, A. (n.d.). Justice Department: Obama's Recess Appointments Are Constitutional. Mother Jones. Retrieved July 12, 2014, from ***********motherjones****/mojo/2012/01/justice-department-obamas-appointments-are-constitutional)

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MPagel

Jul-12-14 12:33 PM

Part 4:

Typically, presidents will yield to this technical move, but nothing says they are required to and obviously President Obama moved forward. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the technicality and the appointment was unsuccessful. But the court did allow for appointments on longer congressional breaks. “Justice Breyer said such appointments generally remained permissible so long as they were made during breaks of 10 or more days” (Liptak, A. (2014, June 26). Supreme Court Rebukes Obama on Right of Appointment. The New York Times.) While all of these maneuvers are important to understand in and of themselves, my concern falls more on the motivation behind the actual events. Why do the republicans stand so firmly against enabling a consumer protection bureau to be successful?

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Reason2Puke

Jul-12-14 1:37 PM

Dodd/Frank in its entirety is a mess. It is the equivalent of a move from one playground bully (the federal government) against another playground bully (big money), and we, the innocent bystanders once again lose.

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MPagel

Jul-12-14 4:17 PM

Okay R2Puke, is that the extent of your argument against the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? It would be nice if someone would cite some facts in a political debate instead of regurgitating propaganda and making unfounded claims.

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swriter

Jul-12-14 10:19 PM

I think Hilary is the best choice!

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swriter

Jul-13-14 12:13 AM

Sorry, I commented on the wrong article.

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Reason2Puke

Jul-13-14 12:18 PM

Fact based responses like citing Mother Jones. LO effing L.

All of you throwbacks should move to Colorado, smoke dope and talk about the good old days in 1968 and LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE.

Progressive... Ya right!

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Reason2Puke

Jul-13-14 12:20 PM

And you are praising Dodd/Frank as in Barney Frank, the guy who defended and propped up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac even when he new they were dragging us into financial collapse.

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MPagel

Jul-13-14 1:35 PM

Insults and name-calling are the tactics of a person will no rational argument.

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MPagel

Jul-13-14 1:37 PM

Historically, presidents have not made recess appointments during breaks in the Senate of fewer than 10 days. In January 2012, the Senate was in the midst of a month-long break, but the Republican-controlled House of Representatives had forced it to hold a “pro forma” session every third day — in which a single senator came into the empty chamber and banged the gavel. The question was whether the Senate was on a single, month-long recess, so recess appointments would be valid, or a series of three-day recesses in a row, so they would not be valid.

SAVAGE, C. New York Times, "Between the Lines of the Recess Appointments Decision" (JUNE 26, 2014)

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MPagel

Jul-13-14 1:39 PM

You don't think citing Mother Jones is a good way to provide facts? How about the NY Times? Or a multitude of other places because it's true and well documented.

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MPagel

Jul-13-14 1:42 PM

5. He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate. Visual materials are permissible, and once introduced, they become available for the opponents' use if desired. Rules of Debate (condensed from Competitive Debate: Rules and Techniques, by George McCoy Musgrave. New York: H.W. Wilson, 1957)

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MPagel

Jul-13-14 1:53 PM

Dodd Frank was passed, it is law. Why are the republicans monkey-wrenching the CFPB? And is this an ethical way for them to defy the law?

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Reason2Puke

Jul-13-14 3:32 PM

Obamacare was passed, it is the law, well, except for the parts that its namesake has decided to eliminate or delay. Immigration laws were passed, they are the law, well, wait, except for the ones dealing with people coming across our southern border.

To progressives, laws are only laws when they are convenient or advantageous, otherwise they are merely suggestions.

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Reason2Puke

Jul-13-14 3:35 PM

Being easily insulted and offended by being called a petty name is a sign of insecurity and shallow intelligence.

Maybe you can dig up a Mother Jones article regarding that.

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JReader

Jul-14-14 10:31 AM

Dodd Frank created a new set of standards that all lenders must adhere to. One can argue that this is a good thing but in reality it places an undo burden on the small lenders and community banks. This is causing many small lenders out of providing home loans. Many of these lenders operate in underserved areas and as a result these areas will become even more underserved. The large home lenders will be left to determine if they feel it is profitable enough to operate in these markets. The financial crisis and housing bubble was chiefly created by the large mortgage banks. The laws created by Dodd Frank were put in place to curb their practices. It is the little guys who are once again paying the price, however.

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swriter

Jul-14-14 3:49 PM

Yeah, those poor little community banks and local lenders. We should all feel real sorry for them.

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