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Tax Freedom Day comes later and later under Obama

April 13, 2014

Tuesday, April 15, is the deadline for filing income tax returns. But Tax Freedom Day for Americans, on average, is April 21 this year....

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Auntydem

Apr-17-14 11:13 PM

Or discount the validity of your opponent by declaring him/her a member of an already trashed group. Simple, clean, mindless.

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Reason2Puke

Apr-17-14 4:52 PM

You can disagree with, and walk away from me all you like, Auntydem. The fact of the matter is that after 4 years, billions of dollars invested and the turning of our healthcare system on its head, there are 858,000 people out of 48,000,000 who supposedly didn't have coverage previously who are now covered. That is a 1.8% success rate.

In addition, costs have gone up, not down. People have lost access to their chosen providers. A company in Canada is cash flush with our money. And, a wave of mass cancelations will happen again at the end of 2014 due to business owners being priced out of the market.

I guess you would call that a success, I would not. Tax freedom day keeps coming later, but unfortunately healthcare freedom day we may never see again after this train is completely done wrecking.

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Reason2Puke

Apr-17-14 2:02 PM

That is a very Marxist reply. Discount the validity of your opponent by comparing him/her to an already trashed figure. Simple, clean, mindless.

Don't feel bad about your inability to defend government overreach and a flailing economy after five years of this president, they are both indefensible.

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Auntydem

Apr-17-14 1:53 PM

R2P, that's a very Bachmann answer, as were the shifting topics. You have a nice afternoon.

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Reason2Puke

Apr-17-14 1:36 PM

I don't know, maybe you can help me out. Does taking water from one end of the pool and pouring it into the other end of the pool increase the volume of water in the pool?

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Auntydem

Apr-17-14 1:22 PM

R2P, help me out here. Do public sector workers not eat, live in homes, drive cars, put their paychecks back into the economy like anyone else? When a private company (such as Mathiowetz Construction) gets a government contract is that a net negative to the economy? When a private companies get public money in subsidies, grants, contracts,use public infrastructure, and pay zero in taxes, are they takers or makers?

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Reason2Puke

Apr-17-14 12:27 PM

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself Auntydem. Fact: The labor participation rate is the lowest it has been since WWII. Fact: The number of food stamp recipients is at an all time high. Those facts are not manipulated to fit the right wing narrative.

Public sector workers were left out of the equation on both sides, but they are a net negative to our economy. Meaning that the tax dollars they pay does not come close to the financial liability that they represent. Before you go there, this is just a fact, not racism or bashing of public sector workers.

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Auntydem

Apr-17-14 11:58 AM

R2P, you claim 86 million people contributing to the tax base in this country and 148 million on some sort of public assistance. Sounds like a more gentle version of the right wing headline “86M Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148M Benefit Takers”. Read past the headline. Left out were 16 million public sector workers who pay taxes. Included as takers were people who worked in the past, but now receive Social Security and Medicare or unemployment. Only veterans were not considered takers. Not considered was the fact that full-time employees on minimum wage do receive assistance, or people putting in full-time hours with multiple part-time jobs. 60% of people on SNAP are working.

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Reason2Puke

Apr-17-14 11:48 AM

None of the "facts" you cited would have precluded someone in need, and wanting health insurance from signing up for it. That would be like me sending a letter to the IRS saying that it is unseasonably cold this year, which prevented me from making my tax payment on time. A total non-sequitur.

It is another bogus argument that is used by you lefties all the time. Requiring proper identification = racism and voter intimidation. Disagreeing with the failed policies of the current president = racism and obstruction. Supporting the 2nd amendment = racism and vigilantism.

858,000 people who previously did not have health coverage are now covered due to the ACA. That, my fantasy dwelling friend, is an epic failure considering the costs and total chaos it has created.

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Auntydem

Apr-17-14 10:41 AM

R2P, calling facts fantasy does not make it so. Changing the subject is not a challenge to the facts, it is sticking your finger in your ears and repeating lalalalalala.

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Reason2Puke

Apr-17-14 10:30 AM

Auntydem, I hope the weather is nicer there in Fantasyland where you live than it is here.

We now have 86 million people contributing to the tax base in this country and 148 million on some sort of public assistance. That must be due to all of the misinformation as well.

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Auntydem

Apr-17-14 8:15 AM

Why did people not sign up? For some it could have something to do with misinformed fear - death panels and all. For some it could be that only 27 states expanded Medicaid. More than half the states don’t have exchanges, and many did not attempt to inform or help people, and some like GA passed laws to prevent the state from helping people with the fed exchange. Red states that made it harder to sign up have the highest rates of uninsured and poor.

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Integrity

Apr-17-14 6:41 AM

Interesting Side Note: both the state MNSure program and the National ACA program have "replaced" their appointed heads already. So that's the problem, the 2 people that were appointed to run the programs the govt put in place? Again, the severe under-achievement of these programs are not these 2 people's faults, it's the programs themselves. Website problems or not, these programs are seriously flawed and need work.

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randiscott

Apr-16-14 10:29 PM

Oh Sven...it is indeed a wonderful country. I don't think people are disagreeing with that. Maybe they are disagreeing with something else you said...hmmm...what could that be in 650 previous posts? I do appreciate a person with a sense of humor.

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svensota

Apr-16-14 9:17 PM

Interesting. Three people disagree that this is a great country. Must be Commies or something.

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svensota

Apr-16-14 9:11 PM

RandiOne:

You're so perceptive.

I watch Foxy Babe Network for an hour every other day, while I work out, with the sound turned off. That way it truly is all fluff and no content.

I would switch channels, but all the right wingers would start drooling and whining.

They need their mind Pablum.

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randiscott

Apr-16-14 1:42 PM

Thanks, Integrity. I'm not trying to be facetious. I really want to know why the 25 million people the ACA was supposed to cover did not sign up? Sven..do you know? You always seem so concerned about the blondes on Fox....you must watch that station quite often. Are you really a closet GOPer?

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svensota

Apr-16-14 10:54 AM

Avoice: I think the Foxy Babe Network is hilarious. Are viewers supposed to take those bottle-blonde airheads with the fake scowls seriously? Apparently so. Millions of your fellow GOPpers do.

It works for the NFL, so, hey, why not the news.

What a great country!

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Integrity

Apr-16-14 10:15 AM

Here's a sample news headline for 2060 - Democrats blame Bush administration for recent gas hike. Bush wasn't the 1st crappy president in history, so get past it and start leading this country instead of always blaming any failure on the previous administration!! Leaders ALWAYS get more of the credit AND blame than they are owed. A good leader deals with it and so should the followers and supporters.

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Integrity

Apr-16-14 10:10 AM

Randi: I'm EAGERLY waiting someone's response as well. Just like the session report that our local MN reps gave the other day...let's just not talk about MNSure and ACA. It's law now, let's move on instead of analyzing their thoughts/ideas & taking responsibility for their actions by ADMITTING this thing needs a lot of work. Instead, let it ride, don't talk about it, and try to get everyone to focus on immigration, bullying bills, tax surplus, gun control, etc. It's called the old smoke and mirrors act.

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middleclassworker

Apr-16-14 12:11 AM

There should have been Wall Street bankers put in prison before any financial institutions were handed any TARP monies.

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Avoice

Apr-15-14 10:30 PM

Aunty, TARP( Obama agreed to this altho he was not yet inaugurated so shares part of the blame) and Stimulus are still a money giveaway causing a deficit. Aunty whether the President thinks up the tax increases or whether the Congress does, the final bill gets signed by the President and has the responsibility and to be held accountable. Oh, that's right, he didn't know about them or just heard about them.

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Avoice

Apr-15-14 10:20 PM

Wow, really rattled your cage Sven and Aunty as I thought I would. But this is what she really said - Feinstein explained: “The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD (posttraumatic stress disorder), which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this. I think you have to—if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally, don’t have access to this kind of weapon." If you read her quote she states "a member or veteran", she does not limit her comment to a veteran with PSTD. One could take that out of context when you really parse the statement. No Foxy babe( Sven, I do think you have a fixation with those gals) told me that.

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svensota

Apr-15-14 9:34 PM

Avoice: Wonderful quote from Senator Feinstein. Thank you. Other than the fact that it's totally wrong. Try to get your facts right, Avoice, even if they come from Foxy Babes Network.

Your "quote" is a highly exaggerated paraphrase of her true remarks. But, why does that surprise me. I'd give you chapter and verse on her exact comments, but maybe you should learn to look up a few facts before you shoot your...

Happy Spring. Or, Merry Christmas.

Whatever.

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randiscott

Apr-15-14 9:07 PM

I'm still waiting for someone who loves the Affordable Care Act to answer my questions. You can throw all the tax comments around that you want....most of us don't know if you're correct or not anyway. I'll be waiting....

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