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Five years of Obama

February 26, 2014

To the editor: Oh, those pesky facts. Well done, Mr....

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Fischer

Feb-26-14 5:47 AM

I wonder where these numbers came from.

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mnsotn

Feb-26-14 7:14 AM

Facts mean nothing to many Republicans.

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Reason2Puke

Feb-26-14 8:16 AM

$6,500,000,000,000 of fake money will buy you a whole lot of illusion, and apparently for the writer of this letter, delusion.

Americans out of the workforce Jan. 2009: 80,507,000

Today: 91,215,000

Americans on food stamps Jan. 2009: 31,986,000

Today: 48,135,000

Gas prices up 82% since Jan. 20, 2009

Number of Americans receiving Social Security disability benefits, skyrocketing.

Oh, and black unemployment is either stagnant or higher since 2009.

But, at least Wall Street is getting their benefit from this administration.

Those darn pesky facts!

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Reason2Puke

Feb-26-14 8:18 AM

Since you like facts so much mnsotn, lets hear your comments on my facts. Go ahead, defend those stats. Reality means NOTHING to progressives.

Oh, wait. It's Bush's fault.

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JReader

Feb-26-14 11:36 AM

Thanks for the laugh Ms. Witgraf. Those pesky facts when revealed without any context are meaningless.

Let's just look at unemployment shall we ?

The day Obama took office the unemployment rate was 7.8%. It peaked in 2009 at 10%. It has since started to slowly decline. This decline can attributed to the fact that workforce participation rates have dropped by 6 million workers. The reality is they've simply given up. It's not as if people are going back to work. This is the truth behind your "pesky fact". Hardly something a president would want to be proud of or that the American people should deem to be acceptable.

The other pesky fact you should consider that this has been the slowest recovery in over 70 years. But hey, who's really counting - right ? As long as the numbers "look right" no need to look into why they are heading in the direction they are or how long it may take us to get there.

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svensota

Feb-26-14 11:52 AM

Well done, indeed, Mr. President.

THANK YOU!

And, yes, Puke, it was Bush's fault. Two stupid, bankrupting wars...and the banking industry run amok, was all, squarely, on his watch. Too bad those inconvenient facts won't go away. Nor will we let it. Glad you finally recognize the truth about Bush, Puke.

Nor do we intend to let you GOPper bozos have the government back to do it all over again.

Hope and change. Forward, Hillary!

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Zorromcgee

Feb-26-14 12:25 PM

Puke-gas prices in june 2008 $4.11 a gallon -we are 66 cents a gallon below that-

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Zorromcgee

Feb-26-14 12:25 PM

Barack Obama said the deficit has fallen at the fastest rate in 60 years. While economists vary on how to best measure that decline, the president used an acceptable approach and his numbers are accurate. There are no statistical tricks in play. from politifact

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Zorromcgee

Feb-26-14 12:28 PM

jreader-you complain that this is the slowest recovery-were you happier with the crash under bush? So obamas flaw is that we are not recovering fast enough?

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mnsotn

Feb-26-14 2:00 PM

My 401(k) is worth three times as much now than it was in 2008.

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JReader

Feb-26-14 3:26 PM

mnstn:

Congratulations about your financial success. Spoken like a true self-absorbed liberal.

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JReader

Feb-26-14 3:33 PM

Zorro:

The slow recovery is just one of many of Obama's flaws.

And, I choose neither a market crash nor a slow recovery. I believe a better choice is in order. It is no longer 2008 and Bush is no longer a viable excuse for Obama's ineptitude. So, you need to dream up a better reason to try and explain Obama's failures.

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svensota

Feb-26-14 6:17 PM

President Obama has:

1. Gotten us out of Iraq.

2. Is getting us out of Afghanistan. . 3. Saved the automobile industry and 3 million jobs.

4. Kept us from tumbling into a bigger recession a la Europe and their austerity fiascos.

5. Endorsed and supports gay marriage.

6. Ended draconian health insurance rules and got us going in the right direction with the Affordable Health Care Act.

7. Intends to allow 12 million human beings living in our country to become U.S. citizens.

8. Killed Osama Bin Laden.

9. Put the blocks to the banking and investment industry with new regulations.

10. Is a really cool guy with a neat family and plays a mean game of basketball.

In the past five years the Republicans have done...uh...well...um...NOTHING...and have pretty much been against everything and on the wrong side of anything that will improve the economy or help our fellow countrymen--except smooching the 1%ers as often as possible.

Three more years! Yippy!!!

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middleclassworker

Feb-26-14 8:01 PM

Our property taxes skyrocketed when we had a republican governor. They are finally starting to go down.

Our economy tanked with the two unfunded wars that our last republican governor put us in.

Unemployment was sky high, along with interest rates on home mortgages when Reagan was in office.

Tell me one example of an economy in the last 30 years that has been good for the middle class under the executive leadership of a republican.

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Reason2Puke

Feb-26-14 8:18 PM

You missed a very important one, Svensota. In the world ranking of freedom of the press, the United states was tied for 20th place in 2009. In 2012, we went all the way up to 47th. 47 is a way bigger number than 20. But freedom of the press isn't really a big deal anyway, especially when you have such an awesome guy in the Whitehouse.

Middleclass, I'm always amazed that you have the intelligence to turn on a computer. Unemployment was 7.4% when Reagan took office, peaked at 10.8% in 1982 and fell to 5.3% by the time he left office. Never once did I hear him blame Jimmy Carter for the economy or the unemployment rate. Also, if they reported unemployment now like they did in 1981-1988, it would be 12.7%.

EVERY social class experienced growth under Reagan. Was that within the last 30 years?

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Reason2Puke

Feb-26-14 8:19 PM

And, mnsota, good for your 401(k). Too bad it is all monopoly money.

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svensota

Feb-26-14 11:16 PM

No, Puke, it is you who missed a very important one.

As usual, you spew out more vitriol than truth.

The 2013 Press Freedom Index has the United States pegged at #32, not #47. (Right between Suriname and Lithuania!) We are in the top quartile, so I wouldn't get all in a lather about it, unless you're planning to go on Fox News and bite your fingernails and sweat bullets over our ranking. ("Gasp! Oh, woe is us!")

But, you're right about one thing, President Barrack Hussain Obama is an awesome guy.

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mnsotn

Feb-27-14 7:22 AM

Frankly Puke, I'm amazed that a neanderthal stuck as yourself is able to tell such great works of fiction.

Ask anybody that had a home mortgage filed during Reagan's term how much the extremely high interest rates affected their home buying decisions.

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mnsotn

Feb-27-14 7:23 AM

*such

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Reason2Puke

Feb-27-14 7:30 AM

Oh, well that is very different. The country that brought freedom and democracy to the rest of the world is ranked 32nd in freedom of their own press. That is outstanding, simply outstanding. Kind of like everything else the progressive agenda produces.

I'm sure you have heard of Reagan Democrats. Have you ever heard of Obama Republicans, Bush Democrats or Clinton Republicans? Yeah, me either. This country needs a LEADER, after experiencing three polarizing administrations. And, just for the record, Hillary aint it.

Also, svensota, you are like rainman with the Fox News thing. I don't watch it, I never have watched it, and I don't intend to start watching it. So, I am not going to comment on it, because I simply don't have any direct knowledge of their content. I'm guessing that neither do you.

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Reason2Puke

Feb-27-14 7:34 AM

Interest rates and unemployment rates in the second year of Ronald Reagan were his fault, but unemployment rates and financial woes in the second year of Barack Obama were Bush's fault.

Now there is some intellectual honesty. Attack me all you like. Your posts speak for themselves. So do mine!

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Integrity

Feb-27-14 8:16 AM

A good leader for any group of people or organization is to maximize all the groups skills and ideas to strive forward together with everyone contributing. EVERY group will have opposing views, your job as a leader is to bring differing ideas together and create a working environment of compromise. NOT-sit there and say if you don't agree with me, I'm going to go over your head because I know what's best, I'm in charge. Statistics aside-this is called the eye test. By the way, very few of our "leaders" in Washington are doing it right.

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JReader

Feb-27-14 8:38 AM

Good post Integrity. I totally agree that there is a serious lack of leadership in Washington right now. We are all suffering because of this great void.

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Auntydem

Feb-27-14 9:32 AM

Yes a good leader maximizes the skills and ideas of both groups and brings them together to compromise. Except when one group can't agree on their ideas, can't compromise among themselves, members actually vote against their own internal compromises, they call compromise weakness, they avoid compromises that would benefit people to prevent any credit going to the president or Democrats, and they run with every conspiracy theory and insult that floats by their e-mail and squawks out of right wing radio. They succeed at making government the problem by being the problem.

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deerhunt

Feb-27-14 10:28 AM

Aunty , I agree with your first sentence 100%,but after that I have to disagree. When he took office he had control of the House and the Senate, he worked on achieving his signature piece of legislation( which he had the right to do )but he excluded the Republicans input . That was where he could have shown leadership and gained trust from the other side. It was his way or the highway, he set the tone as President as for which Congress would or would not work together. He could have after that done some reconciliatory work with the Republicans on something else to make up for that , but he has chosen to rule instead of lead. There is a difference between a ruler and a leader. Great presidents bring people together in tough times , not divide them. It's the POTUS's job to lead the country , not just his party.

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