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Brown County has first same-sex marriage

September 29, 2013

NEW ULM — The first official same-sex marriage in Brown County history took place Saturday outside the Brown County Courthouse....

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Melius

Oct-12-13 9:17 AM

That's Dana Melius. Call me anytime and we can have a healthy debate. 507-276-4077...and then you can tell me your name! (I can't control the Journal's bad blog and technology.)

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GrandmaD

Oct-05-13 3:57 PM

In regards to Melius, I agree with MCW. I, also, agree with his statement about evolution being a theory. As a Christian, my faith & belief that Jesus Christ is my Savior is the foundation by which I live my life.

I live to follow Him & His teachings, & I can't understand why it is not okay to express how I feel. I am not trying to shove anything down anyone's throats - it is who I am.

I don't believe I live in a fantasy world with my faith, just as those who believe in evolution don't believe they live in a fantasy world. We should all be able to express how we feel & what we truly believe without being demeaned. Hurtful words are coming from both sides. And I did check with some surrounding high schools & colleges & was told they don't teach evolution, just as they don't teach about creation as Christians believe.

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middleclassworker

Oct-05-13 2:25 PM

"If you have to speak your mind, have the courage to sign your name to it."

Says the person who is known as 'Melius'.

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Melius

Oct-05-13 9:13 AM

Freedom of speech in this nation does not pertain to and should not allow for anonymous diatribes. If you have to speak your mind, have the courage to sign your name to it. The Journal's unwillingness to curb these "open" forums contributes to this maddening element of today's society. Once Miss Emily's poignant contributions were aired, those of you in disagreement with same-sex marriage should have at least had the decency to shut down. And for those of you who always need to get in the last, hurtful word, have the courage to sign your real name. Simple congratulations should have gone to the newly-married couple, with God's peace.

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svensota

Oct-04-13 10:37 PM

Deerhunt/JR: Where were you with your bi-partisan speeches when we were blessed with the likes of George W. Bush?

Remember the phrase, "I have political capital. I intend to spend it"?

Well, I guess he did.

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JReader

Oct-04-13 10:47 AM

Clinton, had the "Contract with America" crowd to deal with headed up by Newt. He found a way to cross the aisle and work things out. Clinton was also in office when the last shutdown occured.

We live in a different era today. Different players and certainly different philosophies. Deerhunt is right on - the President has to be more non-partisan than members of congress. He has to step up and make it work for both sides. Past presidents from both major parties have done it and Obama needs to follow their lead now.

Most everyone agrees that Obamacare needs to be tweaked. What about the "family glitch" ?

All he needs to do is say let's talk about making it better and sit down and negotiate and this shut down would come to an adbrupt halt.

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deerhunt

Oct-04-13 8:09 AM

When you become president of the United States you have to be a little bi-partisan. You represent every man , woman and child, not just the ones in your party. Sometimes you have to tamp down the rhetoric from the people in your own party so that you can mediate at times like this. This man believes since he was elected it makes him right and the other side wrong. He was not elected by a large percentage of the vote either time, he needs to represent everybody.

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deerhunt

Oct-04-13 8:03 AM

Great leaders bring people together, our president does not do that . He throws out comments that divide the situation farther, he needs to act more presidential . Wouldn't it be hard to negotiate with someone that hours before you are calling them hostage takers, terrorists and other names. To negotiate with someone you have to build trust. What would you think if the CEO of Caterpillar was negotiating with the CEO of John Deere to forge a deal and in public he was calling him names. I would expect more from the CEO of the United States

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middleclassworker

Oct-03-13 8:39 PM

In all fairness, Clinton didn't have the Tea Party to deal with. Reagan didn't have a Democrat equivalent of the Tea Party standing in the way, either.

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middleclassworker

Oct-03-13 8:38 PM

In all fairness, Clinton didn't have the Tea Party to deal with. Reagan didn't have a Democrat equivalent of the Tea Party standing in the way, either.

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JReader

Oct-03-13 11:21 AM

100% agree deerhunt. Both Reagan and Clinton could get things done and work with the other side. We don't see that kind of leadership in Washington at all these days.

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broadway

Oct-02-13 8:16 PM

Oh my goodness. I do not know this couple or there families personally, but I am so annoyed and frustrated for them. All of you that have posted negative comments or comments that do not seem to have much to do with these two individuals getting married, would any of you have appreciated someone publicly commenting about your marriage like this or the marriage of a family member? I understand that everyone is entitled to there own opinion on same-sex marriage, but this is about two specific people and there families. Maybe make an exception this time and keep it to yourself, unless you are wishing the couple congratulations. I cannot imagine getting married and then having to read some of the crap people have put on here. Bravo to them for being first so that (hopefully)no other same-sex couple will have to publicly endure all of the negativeness that they have had to. To the bride and bride: Congratulations and best wishes to a happy and wonderful life together.

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deerhunt

Oct-02-13 3:36 PM

JR , you missed my point ,maybe I didn't state it clearly . The short version of what I am saying is that people have different views ,politically ,religiously or etc., we need to hear the other side, then decide for ourselves what we wish to believe. But we should always have respect for them having a different point of view , not shouting over them or trashing them with words. I never put anybody down , I was just trying to explain the view from the other side on this issue. This is what's wrong with this country , the divide is getting further right /left. We need someone to pull the country back together and quit the petty bickering. Let's deal with the big issue's ( such as debt and unemployment ), we could use a Ronald Reagan / Bill Clinton who would pull Congress in and hash things over until it is figured out. Instead everyone is dealing with sideline issues ( that are based on personal philosophy)while the country is going down the tubes.

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JReader

Oct-02-13 11:51 AM

Deerhunt,

This thread started as a congratulations over a marriage and has devolved to the point of some expressing their religious beliefs. Some have gone as far as to bring up evolution vs. creation debate. You mention tolerance and yet your previous post talks of how you do not accept same-sex marriage even though your church now does. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. You must also realize that your beliefs may be offensive to somebody else so if you publically express them someone may be both offended by and disagree with your beliefs. If you don't want to run the risk of being offended yourself because someone disagrees with your beliefs you may want to exercise better discretion and keep your beliefs to yourself. The minute you express your beliefs others will often take your expression as "cramming them down their throats" - you know that thing you don't care for either.

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MissEmily

Oct-02-13 10:58 AM

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MissEmily

Oct-02-13 10:58 AM

My point was that my comments were aimed at the people that were being oh so rude. So it was unnecessary for you to add that in. You weren't part of the conversation and you posted as if it were directly aimed at you. Overall, there shouldn't even be a*****discussion. Freedom of speech blah blah blah..what about respect. This isn't a topic. This is my family specifically. So I'd appreciate it if everyone would now drop it and move on with their lives.

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deerhunt

Oct-02-13 10:00 AM

JR - isn't that what everyone on this blog is doing? Are you saying it is reserved for just a few of you? Gay marriage-was just saying everyone is entitled to their own beliefs- should not try to force their views to be accepted - either side of the issue - learn to tolerate , that is what this country is supposed to be founded on, freedom of expression and beliefs. One side does not have to be right or wrong . Evolution - a debate that will go on for eternity............once again there does not have to be a right and wrong side.

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JReader

Oct-02-13 9:14 AM

Deerhunt,

If those are only your opinions why do you feeel compelled to share them with everyone else unless of course you wish to impose your opinions on everyone else.

As for evolution, you may believe it to be fiction which is your right but your beliefs have no basis in fact, MCW. You can also believe the earth is flat and that we are the center of the universe which were once held as "religious truths". There is far more fiction to your beliefs than there is to evolution. Before you make the claim as something being fiction perhaps you should look in the mirror and look objectively at your own beliefs first.

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deerhunt

Oct-02-13 7:02 AM

Miss Emily , my mistake , I thought this was an open forum for expressing ideas or opinions.

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davidm

Oct-02-13 5:33 AM

I hope that NO one would be so smug as to think that they are more morally superior in their stand for the truth. A closer relationship with God should prove to be more humbling. Some of us cannot over look what their God says in the bible....there are warnings about being unrepentant. “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' From the Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector where Jesus teaches about repentance and smugness.

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middleclassworker

Oct-02-13 2:17 AM

Emily, scientists have never been able to make something out of nothing. Evolution is a theory, more like fiction.

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MissEmily

Oct-01-13 10:24 PM

If I'm not mistaken, you weren't even part of this conversation.

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deerhunt

Oct-01-13 6:15 PM

I am not against these two people being married, it does go against my religion which has now come out and said to tolerate and accept .That is my religion ,and just as other people don't want my religion rammed down their throats , I also prefer not to have the opposite side ram it down my throat and say I am wrong for having an opposing view and must be racist or sick for having a different view. I just feel differently , I am not hateful or using vulgar language , I just feel differently. on the evolution comment - go ahead and feel free to say you are a descendant of a ape, I prefer to think there is a little more involved to my existence , once again that is just my belief, no need to say I am uneducated or hateful. That is just as bad and hurtful as your oppositions comments.

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svensota

Oct-01-13 2:28 PM

Amazing post, Miss Emily.

Thank you for sharing it, and for sharing part of your life and your truest feelings.

Well done.

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JReader

Oct-01-13 11:25 AM

Thanks for sharing your thougts Miss Emily. Based on your well reasoned comments one can conclude your parents did a fine job raising you.

It is very unfortunate that for some people the only way they feel they can achieve a self-appointed position of moral superiority is to simply by degrading others. When they resort to such tactics they are neither being moral nor superior.

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