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Government can’t meet its own schedule

September 29, 2013

Admissions from President Barak Obama's administration that it isn't really ready to roll out the new national health insurance program have become regular occurrences. By Ja....

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deerhunt

Oct-02-13 7:07 AM

Auntydem , the rates were not that different as they are now. I checked with the insurance company. Something has drastically changed, should be that someone living across the road from you pays double the insurance rate - I thought fairness and access to affordable premiums is what Obamacare is all about.

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 11:43 PM

Auntyddem - Many versions were passed by the House and sent to the Senate. The Senate took a day and a half off and did nothing and the President went golfing. If you would look at other states and other locations, you would see many "freedoms" have been lost by the American People. United Health completey departed California, Aetna departed several states. Those people who were insured by those companies lost their "freedom" to pick and chose a policy. Wellmark BCBS in Iowas did not participate in the Exchange - "freedom" lost by those who wanted a company located in their state? They have no choice to go to any company outside the state. Take for an example Minnesota has required insurance for anyone who works 20 hours or more - ACA has said it should be 30 hours or more - "freedom" lost? Stop reading your talking points and delve into what is really going on. Health insurance has become a "reality show" and many are not liking it.

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 11:31 PM

Auntydem posted " Most small group plans vary rates by the employer's business address." Has nothing to do with the address but starting with the group size, makeup, the general health, existng conditions along with historical history for same type groups and and their history. Examples to be considered age, heart history, previous claims made type of claim made, etc. Much the same as rating an auto policy based on the number of accidents or tickets history one might have, not based solely as to where the auto is located.

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 11:24 PM

Auntydem - when I said we, who have insurance, pay for those who do not have insurance but use medical facilities currently prior to ACA. Under ACA,enrollees will be given "tax credits" to lower their premiums based on the AGI they have. Someone has to pay for those "tax credits" and that will be the taxpayer. That is why Obama said in the vwery beginning average savings would be $2,500 but did not tell us taxpayers would be subsidizing those who would be given "tax credits". Has nothing to do with anyone insured in our insurance pools, chronic illnesses, etc.. Those maladies have already been figured in the premium when the insurance company puts the pool together.

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Auntydem

Oct-01-13 8:00 PM

Deerhunt - Obamacare relies on private insurance companies. Health insurance rates have always varied by regions because the cost of medical care varies by location, depending on the general cost level of the area, differences in medical practices, incidence of illness, the degree of specialization of services and the amount of competition in the area. Most small group plans vary rates by the employer's business address. So lines have always been drawn, and people do live near them.

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deerhunt

Oct-01-13 5:33 PM

Auntydem , you keep touting the benefits of Obamacare. Go on Mnsure's website and check the rates, if you live in region 1 vs region 8 (who touch each other)your rates can be 75-100% higher just because of where you live.How is that fair for someone who lives 5 miles down the road from his neighbor to be paying twice as much? This isn't some quirk, they have had plenty of time to figure this out , maybe because Mayo climbed into bed with the government on this one? I hate to think Democrats would be involved with such a scam . You can't blame Republicans for this.

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Auntydem

Oct-01-13 4:01 PM

Avoice - "We will continue to pay for them." yes, in some way we will, just like we pay for with premium increases because of those in our insurance pools who have chronic illnesses, serious injury, and other tragedies we are thankful we have not encountered. That does not bother me much, because it could happen to me tomorrow. You keep saying "we" and "them" which bothers me more.

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Auntydem

Oct-01-13 3:36 PM

Avoice - My motive was sarcasm based on Bachmann (“I want to see the American people be relieved of the misery and the grief and the suffering of Obamacare") and the many times I've heard the claims that Obamacare will take away our freedoms.

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Auntydem

Oct-01-13 3:27 PM

Avoice - Rather than vote 40 plus times to repeal the ACA Republicans could have offered your suggestion as a change to the law, or any other particular change they felt would improve it. There certainly is room for improvements to this and many other laws of the land. They may have accomplished something positive. But that is not their goal.

Yes, the spoiled,selfish kids may be on the way out. A new Quinnipiac poll shows voters picking a generic Democrat over a generic Republican 43% to 34%. 72% oppose the GOP shutdown to block ObamaCare, including 44% of Republicans. Three-in-four independents object. Bye-bye.

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 3:22 PM

Auntydem posted "As for lack of insurance in an instant through an exchange - if that's the big complaint you have it sounds like you don't have much. Please be faster at getting people into the terrible program that will make them suffer and destroy our freedom." What ever I have is probably none of your business but I am sure many are paying for those who have no insurance and should they get insurance on the Exchange, we will continue to pay for them by subsidy payments. So where is your beef? That last sentence is puzzling as to destroying freedom and making them suffer. I question your motive on that post.

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 3:16 PM

Auntydem - you keep syaing the ACA is the "law of the land" but when it comes to Congress, you seem to take a different stance. I am not saying Congress should have a different insurance - I am saying they should be a part of the ACA just like you and I if it pertains to us. Why should we have to pay in full for Congress to have health insurance? By the way, the kids are in the Senate and in the WH - they wanted all the candy and do not want to share with anyone including the American public which will soon join the people on the street protesting to throw the elite, selfish, spoiled kids out.

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Auntydem

Oct-01-13 1:54 PM

Avoice - last night Michele Bachmann said she was “very excited” about the prospect of a government shutdown, and that“It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it.” Republicans have blocked the entire highway for 6 months so a minority of their members in the House can play on it. No one should compromise to get the highway open. Time for the GOP to make the kids get off the street.

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Auntydem

Oct-01-13 1:45 PM

Avoice - The ACA does not require people with insurance through their employer to drop it and choose a new policy. Whether the President and members of Congress should have insurance as a benefit is a different issue, which could have been and can be changed at any time with or without the passage of Obamacare. As for lack of insurance in an instant through an exchange - if that's the big complaint you have it sounds like you don't have much. Please be faster at getting people into the terrible program that will make them suffer and destroy our freedom?

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 9:30 AM

Auntydem - don't you think the Congress, including the President and his administration, should be included in the ACA? I would think, since the President proposed this policy which became law, he and his family should be the first to sign up(great photo op). ;<) By the way, Minnesota is porjected to be ready sometime this afternoon. Some people will have to wait a week or two before being able to access the system. Will due no good because the link between the Fed DHS and IRS systems to do any data checking is not up and running yet.

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Avoice

Oct-01-13 9:23 AM

But Auntydem, "my way or the highway" seems to be the Senate's rule of an answer with the Presdient's rule chiming in of "I will not compromise" and both are not in the Constitution.

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Auntydem

Sep-30-13 7:59 PM

Millions of Americans are also ready for a budget and a system that functions. 6 months ago the House and Senate approved budget resolutions. According to the Constitution both sides were then supposed to get together in a conference committee and work out the differences. But Republicans refused. A conference committee means compromise; as leaders in our government have done in writing the Constitution and in doing the work of legislating ever since. But in the spring Republicans refused to compromise. In the spring they shut down and have not worked since. For 6 months they would not approve a compromise committee. So much for the oath they took to “well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God”. At least they are doing better upholding the pledges they signed.

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