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Does Oprah need a $38,000 handbag?

August 15, 2013

To the editor: The Journal has been publishing articles about Oprah Winfrey’s unsuccessful attempt to purchase a $38,000 purse at a Zurich, Switzerland boutique....

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middleclassworker

Aug-25-13 1:57 AM

Read this article:

twincities dot c o m/old/home/ci_22715201/st-paul-teachers-pension-fund-wants-state-district

Note the section where it explains that the State shortchanged the plan for many years, which had a lot to do with the problems they are having now.

On another note, Dave Thompson is no friend to anybody who works for a living.

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middleclassworker

Aug-25-13 1:47 AM

*expectancies.

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middleclassworker

Aug-25-13 1:46 AM

Another thing that you need to consider is that 60 years ago when many of these people began paying in, life expediencies weren't as long. People are living longer now and drawing retirement longer. I know it is easy just to blame the "big bad unions" but it is funny how you learn so much more about all the good they do once you quit listening to what your employer thinks about unions.

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Avoice

Aug-24-13 3:33 PM

MCW, no cost shifting has an effect on retirement or does early retirement. What does have an effect is the payouts granted based on performance of the investments. Remember in the ninties when the stockmarket was booming - weel teacher retirement payments grew at the same rat of the increase. When the market fell and the investments turned sour " we can't cut their retirement" lament was the norm. So what they paid out was not covered with what came in. This happened several years ago to the Mpls MTRFA was $1 billion short so the legislature rolled them into TRA and is funding the shortage over 30 years (paid until 2037) to get them whole again. Just payback for winning.

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middleclassworker

Aug-24-13 11:59 AM

AV, why do school districts offer teachers early retirement, thus the amount that they draw exceeds the amount that the fund can sustain? Isn't cost shifting wonderful?

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Avoice

Aug-23-13 10:00 PM

MCW - why did the Duluth and St. Paul teachers union "suck' out $26 million out of the Minnesota General Fund this past legislative session to refill their retirement fund? Did the lobbyists do it? Did the legislature do it? Did the Governor do it? No, payback was required for winning. We did it to ourselves for electing those who "give" our tax dollars away.

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middleclassworker

Aug-23-13 11:11 AM

Yes, avoice is right. But, who lobbied for those congressmen to sign those trade deals? It certainly wasn't the working people.

Either way, the past is the past and those deals should be phased out.

Yes, government spending is too high. For one, why do southern states*****up so much government money? Our military also eats up a huge part of the budget.

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JReader

Aug-22-13 10:04 AM

Avoice is right. Our beloved goverment has done much more to drive jobs out of our country than anyone else. Do you think that the U.S. having the highest corporate tax rates in the world might be playing a role in companies relocating overseas ?

Despite what you might think, a corporation by design is created to generate a profit. They weren't created as a funding source for our beloved government and their endless list of "worthwhile projects".

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Avoice

Aug-22-13 8:17 AM

MCW, what about the blame for the congressional people you vote for for authorizing all the trade deals you keep mentioning? They lined their pockets greatly and continue to do so. Ross Perot predicted that "giant sucking sound" of jobs going out of the USA but you still voted for those you can't seem to hold accountable for passing laws allowing such actions.

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middleclassworker

Aug-22-13 1:56 AM

JReader, since your corporate friends sent so many of the good paying manufacturing jobs to China to pad their compensation packages, jobs like Walmart and Herbergers have become more than just high school or second income jobs.

If these jobs were just for people like your daughter, then we wouldn't have so many of their employees on food stamps. I doubt your daughter qualifies for food stamps because she is still living under your roof (presumably).

Of course, we could say that if you hire a minor, you can pay them $5 an hour, but if you hire an adult, you have to pay $10, but that would get thrown out in court. Of course, companies still manage to pay women less then men for doing the same job, so who knows.

Eliminate the free trade deals, raise the import tariffs and a lot of these problems would go away, but so would the corporate profits.

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JReader

Aug-21-13 11:08 AM

MCW,

My daughter works at Herbergers part-time. You seriously think she deserves a wage high enough to support herself ? This is her very first job - no experience. She should walk right in and make how much $15.00 - $18.00 an hour ??? Really ? So, say she would get $15.00 an hour with no experience. What should someone with 5 years experience get ? I can tell you one thing, if you pay people that based on no skills or experience only Oprah would could afford to shop there.

The market dictates what people get paid based on their skill set. Everyone has to start somewhere - even at discount retailers. If nobody wanted to work at Walmart based on the "crappy" pay they offered Walmart would have no choice but to raise their starting wage.

I tell my daughter if she wants to get paid more the best thing she can do is to make herself more valuable by obtaining a good education and gaining meaningful experience.

We don't believe in handouts.

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middleclassworker

Aug-21-13 7:28 AM

Neither. The person with a job should be able to support themselves on that job. If a company cannot stay a float without relying on the government to float their cheap labor, then in most cases we don't need that company.

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caring1

Aug-21-13 3:08 AM

Who cares its her money.She can buy six and give them as Christmas gifts. Have you been naughty or nice?

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JReader

Aug-20-13 11:21 AM

MCW,

Where would you rather have "your" tax money go - to someone with a job or someone without one ?

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middleclassworker

Aug-20-13 2:46 AM

JR, I'm glad that you can get that warm fuzzy feeling from my tax dollars allowing Kristy Walton to have cheap enough labor so that she can spread her wealth among the causes of her choosing.

Do you know what is better? The CEO of Costco pays his workers a very good wage, he doesn't pay himself an excess amount, and his stores are doing very well. His workers probably have more money to collectively contribute to charity than Kristy Walton ever has. I bet there are very few of Costco's employees that even qualify for government aid. You see, when you ALLOW people to make their own way, they don't need the government.

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Bindle

Aug-19-13 3:09 PM

I am always concerned when someone attempts to decide what another person "needs." Was that handbag overpriced? Heck yes. So are a lot of things but if people have the loot to pay for it then go ahead. It's easy to say that money can be used for a lot of other charitable causes but then we end up on a slippery slope of deciding where other people should spend their money and who deserves what.

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JReader

Aug-19-13 11:32 AM

MCW - "slave wages" is a classic oxymoron, emphasis on moron.

Oprah's "giving" is self-serving. She does it when the cameras are rolling and she can sell advertising. I don't see that type of exploitation any differently and in some ways is worse than your low wage discount retail workers. At least people with a job are taking some iniative to better their lives rather than strictly looking for a hand-out. Oprah certainly promotes a hand-out mentality.

Do you know who the most philanthropic woman in America is ? Yes, it's Kristy Walton. Oprah does crack the top 50 though.

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middleclassworker

Aug-18-13 10:49 AM

No, but you did say noble. That was more than I was offering up.

The guy from Duck Dynasty chooses to take on the appearance of a homeless man. I doubt that Oprah looked like someone that clearly couldn't afford such a purchase, unless you assume that all black people can't afford such a purchase.

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tooold

Aug-17-13 6:47 PM

Duck Dynasty was treated as a homeless person. Isn't that being "attacked" mentally. To me this is racism as much as Oprah is always harping about.

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Reason2Puke

Aug-17-13 4:59 PM

President Obama and Oprah Winfrey complaining about the disadvantages of blacks, women and black women in America today is like Chris Christie complaining that you can't get a good meal in New Jersey anymore.

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Reason2Puke

Aug-17-13 4:52 PM

I never said Nobel either.

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shadow

Aug-17-13 3:50 PM

Duck Dynasty being white wouldn't have had racist people attack him .

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middleclassworker

Aug-17-13 8:52 AM

I never said Nobel. I never was an Oprah fan, but I stand by my comment that she does more good things with her money than many people with her degree of wealth...which she earned and is entitled to waste on handbags as she pleases.

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Reason2Puke

Aug-17-13 8:39 AM

Oprah giving I-pads and cars away to upper middle class housewives who can afford to show up on her TV set is admirable, I guess. Starting a school in Africa is a worthy cause as well. But black people, most of them young, are being slaughtered every weekend in her hometown of Chicago without a peep from Oprah. Her race is having children out of wedlock at a 60% rate and black unemployment is twice the national average, but apparently she is Ok with that, because she doesn't use her incredible influence to affect change in those areas. She is quick to point out the oppressive nature of whitey when she runs into an uncomfortable situation trying to shop for $38,000 purse. She is another disgusting fraud who is disconnected from reality, and people like MiddleClass tag her as being somehow noble.

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tooold

Aug-16-13 6:37 PM

This is not about her wealth. This is about Oprah trying to make another comment about racism again and again and again.

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