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Tax ‘reform’? Watch your wallet

August 4, 2013

Why is it that almost always, when the word “reform” is used in Washington, it means bigger, more expensive government? And why is it that when liberals talk about creating jobs, they really intend......

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EaglesFan

Aug-10-13 12:16 PM

You are right. Both parties are screwing us. The GOP just does a better job of it.

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Reason2Puke

Aug-06-13 6:47 AM

Did I mention a particular party? The political class owns you EF. They are laughing all the way to the bank as we sit and fight with each other over who is better. They are both pathetic.

So, what you are saying is that the federal government is designed to, and capable of running massive giveaway programs for everyone in the country as they continue to take more from the working person. The rich are getting richer at an increasing pace, and the rest of us are not. You can feel good about that because your party is in control. I don't.

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EaglesFan

Aug-06-13 1:45 AM

Which service job without benefits would you like these 26-year-olds to take to finally get them out of mom and dad's house? The money is all stuck at the top, people can't afford to live anymore.

The cell phone argument is getting old. That started under Ronald Reagan as a free land line program, and that was expanded to Cell Phones under "DubYa".

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Reason2Puke

Aug-05-13 10:13 PM

When you push the age of adult responsibility out to 26, and saddle people with exorbitant student loan payments to pay for an overpriced, underwhelming education, you create an entire generation that does not contribute to the tax base until age 40. Combine that with generous welfare payments that cover everything from birth control to cell phones, and you have an economy that is wandering aimlessly in the wilderness.

The economic illiteracy rate in Washington is at an all time high, with no prospect of getting better in site.

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middleclassworker

Aug-05-13 6:59 PM

This economy will never improve so long as the wages of the bottom 90% continue to fall into the hands of the top 1%. A healthy economy depends on money being in the hands of more people. Certainly not even across the board, because socialism does not encourage hard work, but to the extent that so much is in the hands of so few is disturbing.

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JReader

Aug-05-13 8:42 AM

It's more of the pot calling the kettle black. The refomulations may be a little different but the results will be the same.

This is just the Obama version of a "Hail Mary Pass" when it comes to trying to salvage what is left of our economy. The most ironic part is he's taking it out of the Bush playbook.

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middleclassworker

Aug-05-13 7:43 AM

Back up a few years Auntydem. Ronald Reagan raised taxes 7 out of 8 years.

More recently, when Governor Pawlenty was in office we all saw huge increases to our property taxes. This is especially hard on people who are living on fixed incomes in houses that have been paid off for decades.

There is plenty of things wrong with the Democratic Party, but the Republicans have done the working man and the middle class very few favors.

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coschno

Aug-04-13 6:51 PM

Ogden asks, "'Proceeds?' In what universe does a tax cut give government more money?" As every media organization does (or should) know, lower corporate tax rates would be paired with closing loopholes and tax subsidies. Either Ogden is completely oblivious or has no interest in educating its readers.

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Reason2Puke

Aug-04-13 6:32 PM

And Obama will take that $12 trillion and double it again before he is done. We have traded crony capitalism for crony socialism and both have the same net result. Who knew?

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Auntydem

Aug-04-13 2:21 PM

Revenue as a share of GDP was lower every year of the Bush presidency than it was in 2000, while total government spending gradually increased while Bush was President, turning a $6 trillion projected surplus turned into a deficit of $6 trillion – a $12 trillion turnaround. (Source: Bruce Bartlett, member of Reagan and GHW Bush administrations and staff of Ron Paul.)

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Reason2Puke

Aug-04-13 10:48 AM

"economic spiral we are moving out of"? Now there is an interesting take on five years of economic malaise.

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Avoice

Aug-04-13 9:26 AM

notogop, one does not have to go outside the state to see the giveaways. Why did the last legislature pass a bill authorizing payment of $12 million to the Duluth Teacher Retirement Fund and $14 million to the St. Paul Teachers Retirement Fund out of the General Fund? Seems the Dems think money grows on trees. Already our schools are dreaming of all the extra money they will have to spend with the new money coming their way. Might also remind you, the tax revenue increased during those tax cut periods under President Bush.

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