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Give average citizen the same break

July 11, 2013

“Obamacare,” the White House version of socialized medicine for Americans, always was a train wreck about to happen. Already the law has jumped the tracks....

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Integrity

Jul-14-13 12:36 PM

This "livable wage & benefits"?? Should it include money for a 4-wheeler, flat screens in multiple rooms, smartphones w/ data packages, $150/mo cable bills, fishing boat, etc. These things are very common in today's middle class, which is fine, but I don't think these should be needed to be taken into account when factoring a "livable wage & benefits". You can buy a lot of health insurance with the money from anyone of the things stated above-it's called prioritizing.

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Avoice

Jul-13-13 2:27 PM

mnsotn - your experience is anecdotal. If you look at the broader picture, you will find many single people opting out of having healthcare insurance provided as they will take the risk of not having health care needs in their younger years.

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Auntydem

Jul-12-13 10:17 PM

What incentive do they have for signing up for Medicaid when they can just walk in and receive care today? The same incentives that lead anyone else to see a doctor and not wait until a problem for them or their children becomes a life or death emergency. The incentive for them is health and life. The incentive for all of us and hospitals is the difference between the cost of bp pills or tests and surgery or more expensive care.

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JReader

Jul-12-13 9:25 AM

It doesn't surprise me one bit that the implementation of Obamacare has been delayed. Getting everyone to sign up for it is the cornstone of the program. As it sits right now it will much less expensive for individuals simply pay the extra tax rather than pay the premiums. Only when they get sick will they need to go out and purchase the more expense insurance coverage. And, as it is today anyone without insurance can walk in to an ER and receive medical care. Most all of these folks are poor. What incentive do they have for signing up for Medicaid when they can just walk in and receive care today ? Most poor don't work so you're not going to motivate them with the tax/penatly angle.

If only our esteemed members of congress had actually read the bill before they passed it we might have come up with something that might actually have worked. But, then again, this may have been their plan all along.

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mnsotn

Jul-12-13 3:00 AM

Avoice, that is BS and you know it. When the company I used to work for cut their employees health insurance, they never asked if they would like more money. I have never heard a grown adult say they would rather have more money on the check and ho without health insurance.

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Avoice

Jul-11-13 11:25 PM

notogop - yes, there are people who could afford a health plan for what they spend on happy hours.

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Avoice

Jul-11-13 11:24 PM

eaglesfan, no I don't support the AHA. 30 years ago we had responsible workers who wantedf to have health insurance and they made the choice of having their company offer a plan they could say yes to. Today we still have the company offering an affordable health plan but deem it necessary they would rather have the money than paying for a health plan.

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EaglesFan

Jul-11-13 7:03 PM

I think by avoice's comment, they support the AHA. This will require people who can afford health insurance to buy health insurance, instead of sitting at the bar.

Why are people having to go buy health insurance anyway? Your work should provide that. This wasn't a problem 30 years ago before companies and investors got greedy.

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Avoice

Jul-11-13 2:58 PM

mnsotn - living wage has not bearing on this. What has a bearing is the common sense of individuals to buy insurance - rather than go to happy hour every day. As long as they know someone else is going to pay for their health expenses, why should they worry about carrying insurance.

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TURBO75

Jul-11-13 2:06 PM

No need to worry, any day now the Repub's will vote to repeal Obamacare. As the old saying goes, the 38th. time is the charm.

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mnsotn

Jul-11-13 11:10 AM

What is the solution? My employer provides family insurance. If yours did as well, maybe my insurance wouldn't have to subsidize everyone without insurance. Companies need to start paying their employees a living wage (&benefits) if we want to get people off of Government assistance.

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Nusenior

Jul-11-13 10:43 AM

Nusenior agrees!! “Obama care” was planned to fail single-payer system means Medicare for all. What does this mean lower out of pocket cost for basic health care longer waits to see a doctor. No coverage for most advanced medical care. Less time in the I.C.U. I.e. pull the plug on Grandma. As I’m covered by Medicare my access to advanced medical care is all ready limited. When I asked for a appointment to see my doctor this past week I was told the office was booked thru August. This is a clinic with six doctors on staff. I was told I could go to the emergency room at my cost of $150.00 or see a nurse, the nurse told me did meet the rules to see a doctor. But if the pain got worst to go the emergency room. This is called managed care. Good Luck America

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Integrity

Jul-11-13 8:30 AM

Avoice-agreed!! This was set up as a starting point towards the single-payer system. It was designed to fail so they can push their "solution" as the single payer system. You think your lives are regulated NOW, wait until the govt is paying the bills for your health care. Cigarettes are ONLY THE BEGINNING of regulation to reduce costs for a single-payer system. Careful everyone, we're standing on the slippery slope...

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Avoice

Jul-11-13 8:22 AM

The government does not want the individual mandate to be delayed.My prediction. They want every individual to sign up, causing the system to be overloaded, creating a huge deficit in the program because of subsidies,which will require them to mandate the solution of single payer, which they wanted in the first place. This will be more than a train wreck.

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