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Is America at a Generational Crossroad?

January 23, 2013

To the editor: On January 22 it was the 40th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade, and so it seems appropriate to take some time to reflect on our country’s decision regarding abortion....

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svensota

Feb-02-13 3:04 PM

Anytime, JR, anytime.

I'm always happy to add clarity and insight into the world of the befuddled and the politically encumbered, whether they live in Rome or in this paradise called home.

Just think of me as a warm, caring sage.

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JReader

Feb-01-13 11:40 AM

Sven, when in Rome, (or in this case New Ulm) I guess you can say the local culture has had an impact on me. Thank you Sven for the influence you've imparted on me.

Oteron, Michael is nothing more than a spiritual bully. Think Junoir High when there are those kids that in order to feel any level of self-worth must make someone feel miserable. It's really pathetic when you stop and think about it. The only way for someone to feel good and in this case righteous you need to make someone else feel bad and sinful.

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oteron

Feb-01-13 12:12 AM

MT is so arrogant that he lacks credibility and distances anyone he thinks he is saving.

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MichaelT

Jan-29-13 11:43 PM

CLV: You want to know why New Testament Christians are no longer guided by the Old Testament laws you cited. Here is an abbreviated explanation, copied from a comment on an earlier letter:

In Old Testament times Israel was a theocracy. It had 3 types of laws. Ceremonial laws directed their worship life and pointed them to the coming Messiah. Civil laws dealt with punishment of crime. The ceremonial laws (such as animal sacrifice) ended when they were fulfilled at the coming of Christ. Part of the purpose of the ceremonial laws was to act as a hedge separating the nation of Israel from all other nations until the Savior would come out of Israel. The civil laws ended when the theocracy ended. The only law that remains in New Testament times is the moral law, as summarized in the ten commandments. The moral law is repeated in various places in the New Testament scriptures.

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svensota

Jan-29-13 7:10 PM

Aw, JR, don't exclude yourself from that stunningly accurate analysis.

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JReader

Jan-29-13 2:08 PM

You can state that the sun rises in the East and people will disagree with you. I think it has to do with a certain mindset prevalent in these parts.

You can choose one of several adjectives to describe this way of thinking. For me, I simply like to refer to their scientific name "Equus africanus asinus" when describing their collective behavior.

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svensota

Jan-29-13 12:50 PM

Suchislife: These answers may be helpful to your two points.

1.) This is a tough crowd to please.

2.) Consider the source.

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cestlavie

Jan-29-13 7:58 AM

1) how can anyone "disagree" with my comment that when you have group insurance, you pay for other peoples' choices with which you may not agree?!

2) MT - I was not twisting any meanings of the Bible (of which I do not lack knowledge). I was paraphrasing a few passages that I doubt any of us adhere to, including you. I'm not interpreting anything, I'm not twisting anything, I'm stating what we both know is in there. Either you believe it all and follow it all or your faith is in danger - that is paraphrasing you.

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svensota

Jan-28-13 9:16 PM

You two guys should go on daytime television.

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JReader

Jan-28-13 5:48 PM

Isn't it a bit ironic that there are those among us who would condemn and cast away a pregnant teenage girl. They would choose to make an example of her "sin" to be a lesson for everyone to see.

I recall this very thing happening at one time and this teenaged girl was forced to deliver her child in a stable...

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MichaelT

Jan-28-13 5:42 PM

Lord, how they have increased who trouble me!

Many are they who rise up against me.

Many are they who say of me,

“There is no help for him in God."

But You, O Lord, are a shield for me,

My glory and the One who lifts up my head.

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Zorromcgee

Jan-28-13 4:49 PM

CLV-it is futile to reason with MT-even if you prove him wrong he will not admit his error. You cannot argue anything the bible says as he sees his interpetation as the only one. He is immune to his own hypocracy and is unable to recognise irony. His sactimony and condesention is mildy amusing however.

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MichaelT

Jan-28-13 2:03 PM

CLV: I have answered the argument in your previous remark several times in previous strings and do not intend to do so again here. Obviously, your knowledge of the teachings of the Bible is of the same sort as that of the devil, who knows it well enough to twist its meaning and attack those who believe it. If you ever want to have a real discussion about the topic you raised, please give me a call.

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cestlavie

Jan-28-13 8:51 AM

What people don't understand about the ACA is that if you have ever purchased group insurance you are already paying for peoples' smoking, obesity, poor food choices, drinking, abortions, ******* children, birth control, erectile dysfunction, morning-after pill - health expenses

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cestlavie

Jan-28-13 8:47 AM

MT - never wears mixed fiber clothing, doesn't eat shellfish or fraternize with menstruating women (or is unclean if he does). He never discards any teachings of the Bible.

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 8:26 PM

My faith is not in danger, & neither is my Christianity. I like who I am & how I believe. "Amen."

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MichaelT

Jan-27-13 8:02 PM

To whatever extent we reserve for ourselves the option of rejecting this word of God or that, to that extent we are rejecting Christ and putting our own sinful reason in His place. Christ said in His Maundy Thursday prayer, "Sanctify them through Your truth; Your word is truth." Faith bows before every word of God and says, "Amen." Unbelief questions God's word and discards it wherever it pleases.

I am not saying that you are not a Christian. I am saying that a less than full acceptance of all of God's word is a danger to faith. Satan can use partial rejection as a wedge to separate a person from his/her Savior.

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 7:25 PM

It just registered. I guess I should be spelling publicly as such & not publically. Supposedly it is acceptable both ways, & I have seen it both ways, but publicly should be the first choice. Sorry about that.

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 5:37 PM

Michael - You ask me that because I think it is wrong to demean pregnant young girls by exiling them or parading them in front of their peers or their church congregation so they may publically apologize for what happened??????

I do, for the most part, recognize my Bible as authorative, but I, also, recognize that my God would never want me to belittle or shame someone in the manners described. Unfortunately, those things happened, but they shouldn't have.

If you question my Christianity because that is how I believe, that is your right, but perhaps you should evaluate yours, as well.

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MichaelT

Jan-27-13 3:49 PM

GrandmaD: Are you, then, in favor of a "Christianity" that no longer recognizes the Bible as authoritative? What kind of Christianity is that?

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 10:51 AM

Michael - Actually, your words were that if people don't agree with those methods of discipline, they are free to attend school elsewhere. Also, you wanted someone to explain how those methods of discipline were acting in an "unchristian" manner. It's quite clear you support those actions.

Now you say those methods should be "suggested" so others are not encouraged to do what she has done. We all teach our children right from wrong, about sin & its consequences. The churches we belong to do, also.

There is a long list of things that are wrong, including, parading young pregnant girls in front of their peers & making them apologize or exiling them from their church community. Suggesting to do those things is wrong, also. No Bible passage is ever going to make any of that okay in my eyes, & I do read my Bible & I am a Christian. Once, again, GopherState said it best.

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MichaelT

Jan-26-13 10:33 PM

Please do not misunderstand what I have been saying here. Under no circumstances do I believe that a girl should be told that she MUST do this. I believe that it should be suggested as a way of letting others know that she does not support or defend her or her boyfriend's behavior, but considers it sinful. In this way, her sin, which has become public, does not become an encouragement to others to do as she has done.

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MichaelT

Jan-26-13 10:18 PM

1 Timothy 5:20 - "Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear."

Was the apostle Paul, who wrote these words under the inspiration of God, not a Christian?

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GrandmaD

Jan-26-13 9:07 PM

GopherState - Very well stated. That is how it should be handled. That is the true Christian way.

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GopherState

Jan-26-13 8:51 PM

The Christian thing to to is for one or two people to sit down with the person that they are concerned about and talk with them about how their unrepentant sins are dangerous for their soul. They should do this in a loving way, with concern and compassion. If the person serves a public position, such as a pastor, it may be necessary for a public apology, but I can't think of any time when it is appropriate to parade a young girl in front of her peers and have her publicly apologize for her sins. That can be done with a smaller group.

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